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Dec. 7th, 2009

When did I become the person who only ever writes about TV? *facepalm*

# Merlin. Meh. Not that it wasn't okay and everything with Morgana finally getting some screen time again, but I think I've lost the love.

# OTOH, I've started to watch Battlestar Galactica, which I'm still kind of undecided on, even though I suspect I'm already doomed to watch it all, because give me a story and 99% of the time I'll want to know how it ends. On the plus side, intriguing story, plenty of interesting female characters, and beautiful visuals, on the not so plus side a bit too theology heavy for my taste, and I haven't really warmed up to any of the characters yet. Baltar just pisses me off, and and his religion-tinged affair with No.6 freaks me out a bit, and there's something about Roslin that I find faintly creepy and makes me not trust her a whole lot; everyone else I'm still rather indifferent to so far, despite the prettiness factor.

# Note to self, don't argue about TW on fandomsecrets.

(Abbreviated and paraphrased) Person X: Why did Jack take Ianto along, yaddayaddablahblah.
Me (stupidly jumping in, I blame it on Sunday morning): Because the whole thing was Ianto's idea, he wanted to be there, and is actually a person with a will and motivation of his own, and not Jack's accessory?
Person Y (also jumping in): But it's still a stupid plot contrivance, why no gas masks, &c.?
Me: Well, panic, time running out, no ressources, human stupidity, &c..
Person Y: But! Trained secret goverment group!
Me: Riiiight. Trained. With Captain Making-It-Up-As-I-Go-Along Jack Harkness.
Person Y: But I'm studying script-writing, and killing a character to advance the plot is lazy writing.
Me: Well, there goes a good part of Western literature starting right with the Iliad, what with Patroclus' death and everything.
Person Y: TV writing =/= other writing.
Me: I guess this is why RTD tends to at least not bore me then.
Person Y: Now I hate RTD even more for ripping off the Iliad.
Me: ——— Good luck with your script writing career.

*is pathetic*

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rm
Dec. 6th, 2009 11:20 pm (UTC)
Oh man, do I hear you. There are part of CoE that I do think are lazy or sloppy writing, but Ianto dying? Not it. And I'm still gutted by it. But yeah, conversations about it are impossible, I find. Often, even with people I know, like and intellectually respect. We're all so involved with it in strange ways.
solitary_summer
Dec. 6th, 2009 11:31 pm (UTC)
I don't know how I can say this without coming off as totally heartless, but even while I was completely shaken after Day Five I thought that creating a story that has this kind of emotional impact was certainly something. OTOH, I hate what what it did to my friendslist and that lj suddenly felt like navigating a minefield... *sigh*
elisi
Dec. 6th, 2009 11:22 pm (UTC)
Person Y: Now I hate RTD even more for ripping off the Iliad.
Ahahahahahaha! Sorry, but that's funny.

*walks off chuckling*
solitary_summer
Dec. 6th, 2009 11:33 pm (UTC)
That was pretty much my reaction. *g*
yehnica
Dec. 7th, 2009 12:16 am (UTC)
Now I hate RTD even more for ripping off the Iliad

Lolerskates.

Seriously now, people have been writing stories since the early Bronze Age, and the things we write about aren't all that different. The death of a lover or friend to advance a character's development is a theme because it's a constant in life and it's something we can't quite grasp without fictionalising it. We write because to write is to organise, to bring human order into a chaotic universe. And if we don't write about certain things the same way any more, like gods that embody natural phenomena, it's because science has transported those things from the unknown to the commonplace. Death, like 'are we alone in the universe', is one of the last existential questions - it's unlikely it will be answered any time soon. That person might as well have been hating on Homer for ripping off from Gilgamesh. Or Vergil from Homer, etc.

What makes these stories different is their link to their own time, which is unique - and this is why I think CoE is a relevant, generally well written story (if not without its flaws). It touches very accurately on the concerns of its time - government conspiracies, social injustice, pandemics, and the loss of individual people that seems almost insignificant in relation to a global threat.

...and this might have got a tad long. sorry.
solitary_summer
Dec. 7th, 2009 11:03 pm (UTC)
No, you put it much better than I could have. Obviously death can be written well or badly just like everything else, but to essentially say that you can't write about it in a plot-relevant way just because it's TV—I found that fairly mind-boggling. I really hope she misunderstood something there.
un_crayon_rouge
Dec. 7th, 2009 11:39 am (UTC)
Argh, LJ ate my comment in which I was squeeing about you watching BSG and Mary McDonnell's prettiness and her being indeed a bit creepy. Anyway, let me know if you warm up to it. I agree about the religious stuff, and tended to fast forward scenes with Baltar's 6 in it - not that she was really crucial for the plot or anything. *coughsevenofninecough*
solitary_summer
Dec. 7th, 2009 11:34 pm (UTC)
I've already ordered S2! :)
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